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Kaitlin Olson Breaks Down the âHigh Potentialâ Season 2 Finale: Where Morgan and Karadec Stand, Romanâs Disappearance and Is [SPOILER] Dead?

SPOILER ALERT:Â This interview contains major spoilers from âFamily Tree,â the Season 2 finale of ABCâs âHigh Potential.â
Kaitlin Olson knows that many âHigh Potentialâ viewers are already clamoring for her savant consultant Morgan Gillory to get together with her LAPD detective partner Adam Karadec (Daniel Sunjata). But after just two seasons of her acclaimed ABC procedural dramedy, which has regularly topped the charts in multi-platform ratings, Olson is more than happy to continue teasing out that potential slow-burn romance for years to come.
This seasonâs personal arc âwas inspired by everyone really jumping on this Morgan-Karadec bandwagon and being like, âWill they or wonât they?â I just thought that was so funny,â Olson, who is also an executive producer, tells Variety. âWe talked about it, and I was like, âYou canât just jump right into that, because where do you go from there? Who knows whatâs going to happen in the future?â So then we started throwing around the idea of, âWell, what if they each had different romantic interests?ââ
While Karadec reconnected with his ex-fiancĂ©e Lucia (Susan Kelechi Watson), Morgan found herself repelled by and then attracted to Nick Wagner (Steve Howey), the new captain of the LAPDâs Major Crimes division. After getting off on the wrong foot, Morgan helped Wagner get some much-needed closure in the penultimate episode by catching the team of thieves responsible for murdering Wagnerâs fiancĂ©e. (He also saved her from getting shot.) As they were leaving the precinct that evening, Wagner impulsively kissed Morgan in an elevator, seemingly opening the door for a workplace romance.

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âWe wanted to have a little bit of a mystery, and we also wanted to stump Morgan,â Olson says about introducing Wagner this season. âIt was very important to me that sheâs not always right about everything. I like that sheâs a very intelligent person, and sheâs also human and doesnât know whether to trust this man. Who is he? Does he need something from her? Is he actually interested in her? So that was fun to explore and play with. Itâs always more fun to have people actually fall for each other, and then itâs heartbreaking to have it be ripped apart.â
In the heart-wrenching Season 2 finale, Morgan and Karadecâs investigation into a poolside death at a Los Angeles hotel resulted in the arrest of Lucia, a guest relations manager who confesses to tipping off and then covering for the conman who murdered a home improvement reality show host. After lashing out at Morgan for suggesting that Lucia was a suspect, Karadec shows up at Morganâs front door to apologize, leading to a tearful heart-to-heart between the partners.
Meanwhile, Wagner uses his corrupt politician fatherâs connections to stage a meeting for him and Morgan with Willa Quinn (Jennifer Jason Leigh), the shady political fixer connected to the disappearance of Morganâs ex, Roman, 15 years ago. At the end of the finale, while attending her teenage daughter Avaâs (Amirah J) art show, Morgan receives a call from Wagner, who reveals that he is going to meet with someone else connected to Roman in a public park. But by the time she arrives to confront this shadowy figure herself, Morgan finds only Wagner â who gave her the wrong meeting time on purpose â bleeding out with stab wounds all over his back.
As the screen cuts to black, Morgan is left to grapple with the guilt that her search for Roman could very well have claimed the life of someone close to her. âItâs no longer just about her wondering what happened for herself and her daughter, but itâs also potentially going to be very dangerous for these people that she now cares very much about,â Olson says.
Below, Olson opens up about that devastating Wagner cliffhanger, the state of Morgan and Karadecâs partnership (including the unscripted moment from their intimate final scene together) â and reprising her Emmy-nominated role in two episodes of the final season of âHacks.

There is music playing over the end of the âHigh Potentialâ finale, because the creative team wanted to juxtapose Morgan holding Wagnerâs lifeless body up with Karadec hugging a newly indicted Lucia at the precinct. Do you remember what you were yelling on the day? What was going through your mind as Morgan?
I was screaming, âHelp!â and âOver here!â and âOh my God, oh my God.â I think her entire world is completely crashing down, and sheâs absolutely to blame, in her mind. After being selfless for the past 15 years and raising these children, [Morganâs ex-husband] Ludo is wonderful, but thereâs always this thing hanging over her head that her daughter doesnât have her father. Sheâs tried to be both for her this entire time. And for once, sheâs going to ask for something selfishly and wants these answers â and that backfires. Thatâs every momâs nightmare, like, âHow dare I want to do something for me, and then have that be a thing that causes harm to everybody else?â So what was definitely going through my head was, âIf I had just kept my mouth shut and if I had just been like, âWhatever,â then this wouldnât be happening to this man that I care very much about.â
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Morgan and Wagnerâs steamy elevator kiss has lit up social media. Many fans have very strong opinions about a Morgan-Wagner romance, which will not even be on the table if he does not survive. How has Morganâs opinion of Wagner evolved since they first met in Episode 4, and how does she feel about him now?
In Episode 9 of this season, he basically uses her when sheâs in detective school; he almost gets her fired. I thought that was really important to not gloss over. They have an attraction from the beginning, and she also can tell from the beginning that this person is tricky and potentially hiding something. Then he uses her to get answers, even though she could be fired, so she really turns on him and isnât having it and completely shuts him out.
And then it starts to change when theyâre at the kitchen area of the precinct and he explains that he almost was married. Seeing his vulnerability in [Episode] 17 â and Steve Howey did such a wonderful job playing it too. Just watching his heartbreak with his fiancĂ©e when she died in his arms, and then the retelling of the story, Morganâs really able to see, âOK, thatâs why heâs so complicated.â Maybe they have more in common than she thought, and his willingness to open up and be vulnerable was very attractive to her.
Morganâs biggest trigger will always be the threat of harm befalling her three children, and she goes into full mama bear mode to strong-arm Willa â who threatened to harm Morganâs kids â into revealing what happened to Roman. Morgan then learns that Roman was allegedly involved in the death of an undercover FBI agent, but she can no longer stop this investigation. What lingering questions will Morgan have about her ex going into next season?
There are tons of questions. Sheâs second-guessing herself. One thing that we set out to do this season was to make sure that Morgan is not infallible â that just because sheâs smart doesnât mean that she is always right or doesnât ever make mistakes. So sheâs really questioning her own judgment about who this person was. We really liked that that also paralleled what Karadec is going through and him questioning Lucia. He thought he knew her, and it turns out she was someone that maybe he was wrong about. It was really important to me to make sure that that came up when [Morgan] was comforting him, that heâs not wrong about [Lucia]. Maybe he doesnât have all of the answers, but he was scared to open up his heart to her. [Morgan wants to reassure him] that even though it ended up hurting him in the end, it was still the right move. So thatâs a theme for both of them.

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When you think back to your first meeting with Drew Goddard â who developed this show â a few years ago, how did his original pitch about what happened to Roman compare to what is revealed about the character in this finale?
Drew said in that initial meeting, âWho knows what happened to Roman? Weâre going to have to figure it out. And how heartbreaking would it be if he actually did leave her?â I thought that was really an interesting point. Truthfully, we still donât know what happened and why Roman left. Things are definitely pointing in a certain direction, but that doesnât mean that thatâs true. These people, whoever they are, are trying to get her to stop looking for him, so what they have uncovered from Willa may or may not be the truth. Sheâs not trustworthy.
The difference between Morgan and Karadecâs relationship in the pilot and their dynamic by the end of Season 2 is like day and night. How has the way you have chosen to play your half of that dynamic changed as Morgan and Karadecâs partnership has evolved?
Itâs such a good question. It can be very challenging to act in a scene with someone where we donât know which direction we plan to take them. You donât want it to be that predictable, so itâs really fun to take lots of different twists and turns. I think itâs really fun to play some episodes where sheâs irritated by him like heâs a little brother. Just [her] changing his ringtone to âBaby Got Backâ and having him be frustrated by that was so funny to me. I also think that just because sheâs busting his balls and poking at him, thatâs also still very flirty. Morganâs fun at the end of the day, and sheâs entertaining herself, so she could be flirting with him and making fun of him, and that could be the same thing.
But, ultimately, a really important thing for Morgan is that she doesnât like feeling vulnerable in front of people. Itâs very hard for her to let her guard down because sheâs very afraid of being hurt, so it was important to slowly build trust with him. The fact that she feels safe with Karadec is the most important thing. That definitely could lead to a romantic thing, but also can lead to really good friends. She doesnât have very many of those, because she doesnât let a lot of people in.
The moment that really solidified the partnership, for me, was Karadec taking it upon himself to hug Morgan as she had a panic attack in Episode 12. That was a side of Morgan that Karadec â and, by extension, the audience â had never seen before.
Thatâs one of my favorite scenes of the entire series so far. To be a person who doesnât feel like she can depend on anyone in the world except for herself, to be forced into a situation where she is completely out of control, and to see her trying to fix it for herself and intellectualizing her way out of it â itâs not working because itâs an emotional breakdown. And to have him take control in that situation and force her to let him help her was so beautiful.
I think their relationship forever changed from there, because she hated [the hug]. She would never choose to do it. She was forced into it. She was embarrassed by it. And then at the end of that episode, he helps her through that part as well. [He tells her] that itâs OK to be human and itâs OK to count on someone else, count on him as her partner. He knows that she would do the same for him if and when the day comes, and just because it hasnât happened yet doesnât mean itâs not going to. I thought that was just such a perfect thing to say to someone. Ultimately, feeling safe with him was what I wanted for their relationship to be. Whether you know how itâs going to end up â romantically or not â he should be her safest place.
Morgan is right there to support Karadec after he is injured in a building explosion in Episode 16, and then after he learns the truth about Lucia in the finale. In the latter scene, I noticed that it takes a couple of attempts for Morgan to get Karadec to open up about how heâs been dealing with Luciaâs arrest. Morgan is finally able to get through to him when she calls him âAdam,â which rarely happens.
I love that you picked up on the fact that thatâs the first time sheâs called him âAdamâ â or one of the first times. That was purposeful. There was a lot of improvising in there too, and I really wanted him to stay all business and have me force him to let Morgan in. And youâre exactly right. Itâs the same as that panic attack scene. She wanted it to be OK that he was upset, and then she also wanted to make sure in the same breath that he didnât retreat back into that cemented, closed-down space [like he normally does]. This relationship might not have worked out, but I like that it was important to her that he doesnât let himself close back up and that he did the right thing by letting [Lucia] in.

In that scene, was Karadec wiping Morganâs tears away scripted?
It was not scripted. Both of us are very aware that everyoneâs wondering if these two characters are going to fall in love or not. Iâm never going to give you that answer, but I love confusing people. Itâs so funny to do a TV show in the time of social media too, because people just have very strong opinions about whether they should end up together or not. Especially after the Wagner kiss, people are all up in arms. Either way, how beautiful to have a friendship where you can fully be yourself with someone and you feel safe. Not everybody has that.
Morgan and Karadec tend to tilt their heads whenever there is an awkward, extended silence between them. Are their head tilts just subconscious at this point? Have you discussed that at all with Daniel?
Weâve never talked about it, so I guess itâs just maybe us trying to figure each other out.
Daniel has admitted in a previous interview that he thinks Karadec has developed feelings for Morgan, but he chose to put those feelings on the back burner once other love interests threw a wrench in their dynamic for the time being. Do you think Morgan has developed any feelings for Karadec? If so, is she aware of those feelings?
I think that as soon as Lucia comes back into the picture, she is surprised by how she feels about that, because she really has love for him, she wants him to be happy and she wants whatâs best for him. And then seeing it for herself makes her feel strange like, âOhâŠâ Maybe thereâs a twinge of jealousy there. But that could also be that his attention is being taken away from her, and she just enjoys being his partner. I think sheâs so closed down â I donât think that she allows that to come to the surface, but itâs definitely in there, for sure. He is her safe place, and to spend the last decade or so feeling like she canât count on anybody is a very lonely feeling. So I think that it will take a long time for her to admit that she has feelings for him, to herself.

We have spoken a lot about the men in Morganâs life, but the show has also deepened her relationships with Soto (Judy Reyes) and Daphne (Javicia Leslie).
I never want to lose sight of the fact that it was Soto that Morgan went to in the first place to get help finding Roman, and that it was very, very difficult for Morgan to ask a member of the police department for help. So developing that relationship and making sure that Soto is the one whoâs leading the charge on finding him and not breaking her word to Morgan that sheâs going to, even after Morgan asks her to stop â that was really important. Iâd never want [the show] to be all about the romance, like, âHow does Morgan feel about the men?â Thatâs fun, but having solid female relationships where that lieutenant has her back no matter what is really important.
Morgan definitely wants to take Daphne under her wing, even though Daphne has more detective experience. She loves her and sees from the pilot that Daphne lights up watching Morgan do her thing. I will say that there was an iteration [of the show] very early on where it seemed like Daphne was jealous of Morgan. I was like, âWe canât do that. Daphne can admire Karadecâs skills but not be jealous that Morgan gets to be his partner, because that gets weird.â It was just Javiciaâs instinct to have her face light up when I was doing some Morgan stuff in the pilot, and I loved it, and I was like, âThatâs what we have to lean into. She has to look up to her and find her fascinating.â Daphne has an episode where she really takes the lead this season, and she said sheâs channeling her inner Morgan. I like that these women are leaning on each other and rooting for each other.
At this point, what do you know about the third season? Will the premiere pick up immediately after the events of this finale, or will there be a time jump?
Thatâs all in discussion as we speak, so I canât say anything, but there is a lot on the table. There are so many places that we can go â not only with the Morgan-Karadec of it all, but is Wagner dead? He sure got stabbed a lot in the back! And whatâs going on with Roman? I think thatâll be addressed sooner rather than later, just because, as an audience member, who wants to drag that on for another season? So weâre going to have to have some answers there pretty quickly.
Does this mean that you guys will finally be casting the role of Roman next season?
Listen, I canât give you any guarantees, but I think itâd be a pretty smart idea.
âHigh Potentialâ will be returning next season without showrunner Todd Harthan, who is departing to oversee a new âEragonâ adaptation for Disney+. Have you and the other producers found his successor yet?
Itâs definitely being discussed. Listen, this is a really big job. This is a show with multiple tones, and thatâs not easy to do. Iâm so particular about every single aspect of these scripts and these storylines.

What kinds of conversations are you looking to have with that new showrunner to ensure the core tenets of the show that Drew and Todd have established remain the same?
I think itâs really important to protect all of the tones. One of the biggest compliments I get is what you said to me in the beginning, which is that you can watch it with your little brother. This show appeals to all audiences, and thatâs really important to me. I like that my kidsâ friends are watching it. I like that my parents and their friends are watching it. The murders need to feel real and grounded. I want people to be emotionally invested in these characters and know who they are inside and out. I also donât ever want to lose the fact that Morgan is a free-spirited, fun, well-rounded person, not just a smart person. So there is comedy in that, but the world is not funny â the world is serious, and the crimes are serious. So protecting all of those things is the most important to me.
Despite your day job on âHigh Potential,â you made time to return for the final season of âHacksâ as DJ, the daughter of Jean Smartâs Deborah Vance. In Episode 5, DJ convinces her mother to join her on a beloved reality show.
Iâm so honored to be a part of this show. I love it so much. Even just as an audience member, itâs so special. Jen [Statsky], Paul [W. Downs] and Lucia [Aniello] did such an incredible job creating these characters and making them so layered.
I read the script, and was dying laughing. I was so excited about it, but it was really also important for Jean and I to wrap up this relationship because these people have been on a real journey. But I also love that DJ will perpetually always be a grown, angsty teenager. They get to do something really special and really wild together, and itâs very bonding and so much fun and right up my alley.
How do you think DJâs relationship with Deborah has evolved over the course of the show, and what have you enjoyed most about playing out that mother-daughter relationship with Jean?
Jeanâs just a dream. Every scene with her is just a gift. Sheâs so fantastic and so talented. But DJ started out as a person who, even as a grown woman, is desperate for her momâs approval and attention. I think throughout this series, in the roast episode [of Season 3], she discovers that itâs not her fault. Her mom has an addiction as well. Sheâs addicted to laughter, and thatâs something that DJ can identify with because sheâs an addict. It just takes the load off of DJ a little bit. She lets herself off the hook for feeling like this is all her fault, like sheâs a failure of a daughter, because she could never get her momâs attention. It wasnât really about that. But I also like that it doesnât completely go away. She still wants her momâs attention all the time.
And then having a child, becoming a mother herself, and deciding which parenting styles she wants to pick and choose from, and what things she absolutely does not want to do to her kid â becoming a mom does that too. Suddenly, you realize that nobody has it figured out. Weâre all winging it, and now itâs her job to wing it.
This interview has been edited and condensed.




